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    • CommentAuthorFreedman
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2006
     # 1
    I mentioned this in another discussion and thought it warranted its own. Not sure if this has been suggested in the past, but I think it should be discussed here. Please throw in any feedback you have.

    Institute a labeling system instead of categories (similar to Gmail's). When users create a new discussion, they can label it with none, one or multiple labels.

    There would be admin settings to restrict it to either no labels, only one label, etc. Restricting it to none would essentially make it only a "discussions" forum and remove the "Labels" tab (which replaces "Categories"). Restricting it to one would basically give it the same functionality as the current Vanilla (basically, Labels would function as the current Categories do).

    If a discussion is given multiple labels, then viewing any of the label pages its labeled with will display that conversation. Again, there should be limits to this set by admin, so users don't just flag a discussion with 7 or 8 labels unless you want them to.

    Notes: Labels would replace categories--multiple labels can be given to each discussion. Admins can restrict functionality to one label per discussion, which would keep things working as they do in Vanilla currently--so no one is losing any functionality by this feature
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      CommentAuthorBergamot
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2006
     # 2
    They're called tags, and every time they come up a few people chime in about how easy it would be, and then nothing gets done.
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      CommentAuthorKrak
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2006
     # 3
    \o/ for nothing gettin done! lol

    I thought I've seen tags mentioned somewheres.
  4.  # 4
    Actually, instead of replacing categories, code a tagging extension and just don't create any categories.
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      CommentAuthornathan
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2006
     # 5
    Tag have been mentioned in a few places, you are right. Do a quick search for them.
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      CommentAuthorlech
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2006
     # 6
    tagging and nothing getting done... hey at least we're consistent in this area!
    • CommentAuthorrdlomas
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2006
     # 7
    Sounds great! I agree with you Savory...

    Sounds like a perfect extension idea..

    Anyone want to work on it?
  8.  # 8
    I think the idea of supporting some sort of tag/label has merit. When discussions become very active, a discussion can easily fall onto the second or third page very quickly, hardly ever getting read. Having the ability to filter you view would allow you to view the discussion of interest.

    Perhaps a simpler approach (but may be a code headache for Mark) would be to support a 1:M relationship between discussions and categories, therefore adding the functionality to the current implementation, without taking the code away from the current discussion-centric view. You could then flatten out the category drop-down to the left (or an ordered list, etc.) therefore allowing the user to filter their view.
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      CommentAuthorBergamot
    • CommentTimeMay 8th 2006
     # 9
    "Perhaps a simpler approach (but may be a code headache for Mark) would be to support a 1:M relationship between discussions and categories, therefore adding the functionality to the current implementation, without taking the code away from the current discussion-centric view. You could then flatten out the category drop-down to the left (or an ordered list, etc.) therefore allowing the user to filter their view."

    Well yes, that's the idea, but in practice it's a bit of a hassle, and requires new tables, and ideally new UI.
  10.  # 10
    Yes, you would need a join table to support that relationship. I guess that rather than have hundreds of categories, you could install multiple forums (sharing the LUM_user table) and then be able to segment discussions across forums. Not as clean a solution though ...

    I wonder if such features are on the development wishlist for Mark ..
  11.  # 11
    I was under the impression tagging was on the wishlist at some point. I think it was a v2 thing though.
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      CommentAuthorKrak
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2006
     # 12
    Theres a wishlist for v2!?!?
    • CommentAuthorithcy
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2006
     # 13
    BergamotThey're called tags, and every time they come up a few people chime in about how easy it would be, and then nothing gets done.


    well, it would be.
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      CommentAuthorBergamot
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2006
     # 14
    Oh I know, I'm one of the people :D
    • CommentAuthorBlueshark
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2006
     # 15
    Labelling for categories strikes me as a great idea.
    Essentially it is just a pre-defined search filter (on an invisible tag). That is all.

    There would be *no* categories.
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    I think the term "label" is more common-sense vanilla than is "tag".
    If roles could view/not view different labels, we'd get a better permissions system for vanilla in the same feature/add-on. If this is ever (!) written, I think each label should have the option whether or not it should be listed on a categories-type page. With lots of tags, things might get a little overwhelming on that page otherwise.

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