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      CommentAuthormedy
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2006
     # 51
    thanks Ø :)

    Converting begins...

    SMF forum which will be converted: http://www.e-participacija.si/forum_EU/

    Can someone give me piece of advice how to make similar left menu navigation?
    • CommentAuthorxwisdom
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     # 52
    What about performance how does Vanilla performs under heavy usage when compared to SMF?
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      CommentAuthorThunder
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     # 53
    For starters...

    • less bandwidth usage

    • less overhead/load

    • less "bloat"



    SMF is very good for what it is (massive feature packed beast), but so is Vanilla. Vanilla is more of an "a la carte" environment. It starts you out with the basics, and you can pick up what you need via extensions. So out of the box Vanilla has a ton less bloat, and functions very well. It's a lean, mean, fighting machine.

    Until recently, I was one of the lead dev's for a project that was very heavily centered on SMF. I had to depart due to my schedule, and some other personal reasons, but since then I've been missing the interaction and production environment. After having lurked around Vanilla since late last spring, I finally got into it more. The more I work with it, the more I love it.
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     # 54
    I suppose you could add custom links using Side Panel and make them point to custom pages with Page Manager. Depending of your needs, it should do the trick.
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006 edited
     # 55
    Just change a few things in library\Vanilla\Vanilla.Functions.php from lines 14 to 34 as Wallphone suggested here. I replaced the whole chunk with his code and the comas disappeared.
    • CommentAuthorAndrewVos
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2006
     # 56
    <quote>
    thanks Ø :)

    Converting begins...

    SMF forum which will be converted: http://www.e-participacija.si/forum_EU/

    Can someone give me piece of advice how to make similar left menu navigation?
    </quote>

    Looks like he didn't manage to convert it?
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      CommentAuthorjimw
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2006
     # 57
    Will the links in the side panel just be pages that you will create with the Page Manager extension? Or will there be more?
    • CommentAuthorpietrekg
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2006 edited
     # 58
    Hi!

    Lately, I've tried to convert SMF to Vanilla. Script works, ofcourse (thx Steve!), but i have some probs with polish characters (like ą,ć,ę,ł,ń,ó,ź,ż). They are being converted to "??". How to solve this problem?

    Regards,
    Peter :)
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2006
     # 59
    That's quite a problem. Have a look at this discussion, it should help you understanding this issue. The patch can be found here, hoping you're running on MySQL 4.1 or higher.
    • CommentAuthorargie01
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2006
     # 60
    Hi,

    I'm trying to migrate from smf 1.1 final to last release of Vanilla.
    I did a first test, and the migration seems to works fine. But I have a problem with the special characters because the language of my forum is spanish. So, the characters á, é, í, ó and ú are showed as "?"
    After check the discussion you point in the post above it, I did the change that guy says, and then I get an error when I try to do a new installation:

    A fatal, non-recoverable error has occurred
    Technical information (for support personel):
    Error Message
    An error occurred while attempting to retrieve the requested user.
    Affected Elements
    UserManager.GetSessionDataById();
    The error occurred on or near: Table 'v103.lum_user' doesn't exist

    So, is there another way to avoid this problem, or a guide to fix it ?

    Thank you !
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2006
     # 61
    Well, I've no idea why you get this error, but it probably comes from several changes in Vanilla's install since the 1.0.1 version. I'm not skilled enough in PHP & MySQL to investigate further. However, I can provide my patched 1.0.1 version.

    You'll find it here. Try to make a fresh intall then upgrade to the 1.0.3 version. I'm not sure it will work but it should help.
    • CommentAuthorargie01
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2006
     # 62
    thank you ! I gonna test it !
    • CommentAuthorargie01
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2006
     # 63
    Your script is working fine with the patched 1.0.1 version, and also when I upgrade to 1.0.3 version.

    Thank you !
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2006
     # 64
    You're welcome, I'm glad it helped :)
    • CommentAuthorargie01
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2006
     # 65
    I found a problem.
    I tested 2 users using the extension SMFPasswordHash. The users can login without problems.
    But now I found the users can't change their password. Every time I try to do it, I get an error telling the old password is bad. I think this could be a problem of your extension.
    What do you think ?

    Thank you !
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2006
     # 66
    Err, this is not my extension, it's Steve who made the PasswordHash thingy. I had various problems with it: the password worked, but not for all users. It appears to only work correctly with SMF 1.1 RC1 or below from what I've understood.

    My solution was painful but simple: I disabled the extension and asked all of my users to reset their passwords.
    • CommentAuthorargie01
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2006
     # 67
    But if you disabled the PasswordHash extension, the users can't login and reset their passwords...
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2006
     # 68
    Yes they can, they just need to use the forgotten password form and enter their username. Then they'll receive an email wich will allow them to change their password.
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      CommentAuthormedy
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2007
     # 69
    Hi!

    I finally decided to convert SMF to Vanilla...
    SMF version: 1.1 RC3
    Vanilla version 1.0.3

    I had absolutely no problems with converting categories/comments/users/discussions. It worked like a charm.
    http://www.e-participacija.si/forum_EU/
    http://www.e-participacija.si/forum2/

    But I don't understand how the SMF Password Hash works. I installed it like an extension and enabled it. Is that all? How does it work?
    A tried to log in as a different users and it doesn't work. What have I missed?
    thx
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2007
     # 70
    I fear this extension doesn't work with latest SMF versions. Maybe you should try to contact Steve to see if he can update it.
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      CommentAuthorØ
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2007
     # 71
    I was just thinking if you don't find a solution, you may want to install Massmailer to explain your users how to change their passwords, with a direct link to /people.php?PostBackAction=PasswordRequestForm. It's quite useful in this situation.
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      CommentAuthormedy
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2007
     # 72
    Thanks,

    Both ideas are great :)
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      CommentAuthorskube
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2007 edited
     # 73
    @medy:
    Looking to convert from SMF and I tried the links to your converter script, but I got 404s.

    As for general impressions of SMF vs Vanilla, I think I have finally found that which I desire. I well-done, semantic, valid and extensible online community software. I have been using SMF for about 6 months and just installed MKPortal last week. While I initially liked the added features and customizations ability, I found the complete solution bloated, awkward and just plain cluttered (even after turning off many features and altering css and HTML code). Some users like my current setup, probably because they don't know what better alternatives are out there. I looked long and hard for a forum solution that matched my ideals. SMF was the best I could find. Until now.

    The only missing feature that I hope comes along shortly (in form of an extension), is an events calendar. Having an integrated month by month calendar linked to current discussions, with upcoming events listed in the side panel is a key bit of functionality for me and my users. I know there are already some developers working on a calendar...

    In any case, a big thanks goes out to the developers (Mark O' Sullivan) behind Lussumo!

    cheers,
    skube
    • CommentAuthorscotbuff
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2007
     # 74
    Does anyone have a copy of the converter script from SMF to Vanilla or a suggestion on how to convert an SMF forum to Vanilla? Thanks in advance.
    • CommentAuthorbebe
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2007
     # 75
    I'm looking for the SMF to Vanilla converter too. Anyone care to share the working copy? Thank you in advance.
    • CommentAuthorsb56637
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     # 76
    I would also like to use a working converter SMF -> Vanilla. Is this still active? Thanks!
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      CommentAuthorHamed
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     # 77
    smf is alright for me
    but i dunno
    i have seen vanilla for 10 days
    and i am in love with it now

    it does not have that ewwy "normal" forum look

    it is sooo different

    i like different


    invision power looks so bad compared to this

    i dunno
    my oppinion

    i especially love the digg theme
    soo coool


    smf, phpBB, invision power
    they all have the same look
    i am tired of it
    so boring

    i actually had an ipb board 2.2.2
    it was really cool and all
    but it gets boring
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     # 78
    I had a phpbb which I thought was cool too, lots of bells and whistles which I took great pride in setting up, trouble-shooting and fixing. It worked beautifully.

    There was only one problem, it scared my users away because it was too complicated in their minds.

    That's when I discovered Vanilla, set up a test forum and they came back in droves!

    The KISS principle always works best - Keep It Simple Stupid.
    • CommentAuthorsb56637
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     # 79
    I agree with the above comments, it´s just that I have a fairly healthy, active SMF forum at the moment. If I could easily switch the data and users to Vanilla, it would be a done deal.
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     # 80
    I ran both in tandem for a while (about 2 months I think) then chopped off the old one once people stopped using it.

    However I had nothing of extreme "historical" value that begged to be kept, I even ran a user poll, 99% agreed to let go of the past and move on to the future!
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      CommentAuthorHamed
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     # 81
    yeah i agree with the KISS statement
    cool
    ^^
    • CommentAuthorsb56637
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     # 82
    So, you don't think I'd loose a ton of users if I made them re-register and kept the old forum read-only accessible?
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      CommentAuthorHamed
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007 edited
     # 83
    umm depends on how your users are if they love ur content they will do ANYTHING
    maybe if they make a import members addon then u could import members from ur other forum to this one that would be a cool one to have i dunno if it is possible

    u should prabably try it for a while see how it goes nothing to lose cuz if u still have ur other forum u can go back to it if u saw it was not going well for u
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     # 84
    Ask them mate, show them a few of the nice Vanilla forums out there and let them help to make the decision.

    After all, if they "own" the move they will be happy and life will be good!
    • CommentAuthorsb56637
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 85
    Thanks for your advices!
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      CommentAuthorAndrewE
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2008
     # 86
    I'm looking to migrate from SMF, does anyone have a link to that transfer script that works? I think a lot of people here are looking for it too, so it would really be a good resource and would help convert more users to vanilla!

    Thanks.
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      CommentAuthortikitakfire
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008 edited
     # 87
    I'm looking to migrate from SMF, does anyone have a link to that transfer script that works? I think a lot of people here are looking for it too, so it would really be a good resource and would help convert more users to vanilla!

    I join the call! Someone knows how to migrate from SMF to Vanilla?
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