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    • CommentAuthormarkwilkin
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2005 edited
     # 1
    I'm like the look of Vanilla, the css design in a big plus vs Vbulletin which is a nightmare of tables plus it's simple, really simple.

    But I'll need to shift all my posts and possibly my users across, at least usernames and passwords. Anyone working on a converter already?
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      CommentAuthorlech
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2005
     # 2
    I believe someone else was working on this a while ago but I'm not sure if it was released or not due to some DB changes.
  1.  # 3
    I've made a phpBB converter which you're welcome to look at to get the scope of whats likely transferrable (obviously there are titbits that arent) and a basic idea how to do it (though its probably not the best way by any means)
    I believe somoene talked about a vBulletin one though.. search for it.
    • CommentAuthormarkwilkin
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2005 edited
     # 4
    Aha I've found

    http://lussumo.com/community/comments.php?DiscussionID=145&page=3

    and have e-mailed chris gwynne about where he's at with the vbulletin converter. *crosses fingers*
  2.  # 5
    still working on it mark, i've got a lot nailed down but there's still a lot of kinks to work thru, i'll keep you updated.
    • CommentAuthorseanthomps
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2005
     # 6
    did anyone ever get to this? It is what is stopping me from changing my big board :)
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      CommentAuthorADM
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2005
     # 7
    If Chris isn't close to finishing it or he's given up on it then I can do it. I had a look at minisweeper's phpbb migrator and everything's understandable and I don't really see any issues converting that to a vbulletin migrator.

    There were a couple of issues that I saw but there are easy ways to work around it.

    So yeah, is it worthwhile me getting started on this or should I just wait for Chris?
  3.  # 8
    I'd say email him - if he's paused in development half way through (as i tend to do with nearly everything i touch) it might be worth him sending you his code so you can finish it off or whatever.

    I'd be interested to work on a migration api or something to make it easier for new migrators to be written in a common way if you're up for it adm?
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      CommentAuthorADM
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2005
     # 9
    Sure something like that sounds good. Except I wouldn't know where to start ;)

    I was thinking there wouldn't be much difference between each forum system since all that's really getting imported are Users, Categories, Topics and Messages. Most forum systems do use seperate tables for each anyway so most of the time it's a matter of simply changing the table names and the way it references those tables (and it's rows) to complete a new migrator.

    The only things that you could possibly encounter along the way is that some forum systems use different encryptions for user passwords.

    But yeah I'd love to help out with an API, any ideas you've got on it then let me know :)
  4.  # 10
    well where you're at is pretty much spot on - my idea was just to make it easier for non-tech types to be able to build a migrator, and to let all migrators follow a common theme. I'm still not sure on the exact how's, mind.
    Are you any good on the graphic side of things?
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      CommentAuthorADM
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2005
     # 11
    Ahh ok.

    I think I'll open up a new topic/whisper so we can discuss this abit more indepth :)
    • CommentAuthormarkwilkin
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2005
     # 12
    *does the dance of joy* Thanks guys, once this is done I can lead my users to the promised land that is Vanilla :)
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      CommentAuthorADM
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2005
     # 13
    Heh no probs :) I've emailed Chris and linked him to this thread.

    So one of us will make this migrator.
  5.  # 14
    ADM, you've emailed me? Haven't received it bud. Send it to chrisgwynne@gmail.com

    As far as development, it's postponed until I can get my SQL database fixed, as I was messing with importing and exporting via various boards and Vanilla it's got seriously screwed up. If anyone's got any progress done on their own converter and want me to take a look, shoot it to the email above.
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      CommentAuthorADM
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2005
     # 15
    Ahh ok.. I emailed you at the email you've got listed in your profile.

    Either way it was just pointing you to this thread and seeing if you are still working on this importer, if not I offered to take over for you.

    Me and minisweeper are working on a new import method which actually will encompass many forums of which vBulletin will be one. Though I'm not sure how long this will take as we are still just going over ways at which we can accomplish this.

    So in the meantime it might be ideal to just get minisweepers phpbb importer and just replace the queries and table names with vBulletin's ones.
    • CommentAuthorseanthomps
    • CommentTimeMay 27th 2006
     # 16
    has there been any progress on this?
  6.  # 17
    Huge Bump!

    Just been hired to port a vBulletin board over to Vanilla, so a Migrator would sure save my life a bit.
  7.  # 18
    Josh drop me an email at g at int0rw3b dot com. I've told kay I'll migrate her wolt board so I'm thinking now is probably a good time to make a universal migrator system. Might be good to get our heads together (especially if you're useful with php?)
  8.  # 19
    Hey Mini, just found out we're starting fresh and not porting. Was actually looking forward to the challenge. I'm not too useful with PHP, I can just scratch stuff together to get what I need to work. Feel free to get in contact though if you'd like some head bumpin'
    • CommentAuthorreap
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2006
     # 20
    *bump

    would love this
    • CommentAuthorchris
    • CommentTimeOct 3rd 2006
     # 21
    more bumps
    • CommentAuthorjeevesbond
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2006
     # 22
    Bumpy, bumpy, bump-bump.
    Does anyone know if anything's occuring with this? Is the universal converter being worked on? Even if it's not, just a working copy of the vBulletin converter would fulfill most people's needs.

    If I really have to I will hack-up a vBulletin converter, not yet, but soon. Am looking to convert http://www.webmaster-forums.net to this fine software. :)
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      CommentAuthorTomTester
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2006
     # 23
    Bump (hurts head)
    • CommentAuthorjdingman
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2006
     # 24
    I'm still eagerly waiting for this too, I'm getting ready to move from vbulletin to vanilla and I'm basically just waiting on a converter...
    • CommentAuthorreap
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2006
     # 25
    word
    • CommentAuthorjdingman
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2006
     # 26
    anyone have updates to this??? it would help the Vanilla community grow a lot if there were some converters out there...
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      CommentAuthor[-Stash-]
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2006
     # 27
    This would be great, but you've just GOT to call it "The Universal Migrator" (sp? made it up, but migratory is a word...).
  9.  # 28
    Hi,

    while searching for "vbulletin to vanilla" migration, I came across this company that has already converted their helpdesk product based from Vbulletin to Vanilla.
    I left a message in this thread:
    http://forum.cerberusweb.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=8169&page=1#Item_18
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      CommentAuthorTomTester
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2007
     # 29
    Universal Migrator would be a great idea...

    One Bulletin Board -> Bulletin Board MicroFormat (in XML) -> Another Bulletin Board

    Would solve a lot of trouble... and save us half the questions on BB discussion forums... ;-)
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      CommentAuthor[-Stash-]
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2007
     # 30
    Want to start creating that MicroFormat then Tom? ;) If you post it here as you go along everyone else can chip in features they need :)
  10.  # 31
    Yeah, me and a guy on here considered making a universal formatter a while back but it never went anywhere...
    Is there actually a microformat in existance? Or are you suggesting making one?
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      CommentAuthorTomTester
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2007 edited
     # 32
    OK, here goes 'hForum' :-)

    A forum is a collection of posts/conversations (optionally hierarchical/organized).

    A conversation consists of a content element posted by one author (user), followed
    by a discussion (comments) by other authors (and/or the original author).

    Hence a forum is not that different from a blog, and I think it could very well be captured
    within the proposed hAtom spec for content elements:
    http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
    (part of the official WIKI replicated below to facilitate easy discussion)

    Notes:
    Comments or (threaded) discussions can be seen as recursive hAtom content elements, e.g.

    hAtom content element (post)
    +- hAtom content element (comment 1)
    | +- hAtome content element (comment 1.1 on comment 1, aka threaded discussion)
    +- hAtom content element (comment 2)
    etc etc


    Users (authors) in hAtom are captured in the hCard format:
    http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard

    As a microformat hAtom is "Designed for humans first and machines second [...] built
    upon existing and widely adopted standards." in this case Atom.

    On second thought I'm not sure that exporting a forum in recursive (h)Atom elements
    would satisfy the 'easy to grasp' goal.

    Perhaps a less recursive (flat?) approach would result in more converters... anyway,
    it's a start.

    TT.


    hAtom: Field and Element Details

    Feed

    * a Feed element is identified by the class name hfeed
    * a Feed element represents the concept of an Atom feed (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.1.1)
    * the Feed element is optional and, if missing, is assumed to be the page
    * hAtom documents MAY have multiple Feed elements

    Feed Category

    * a Feed Category element is identified by rel-tag
    * a Feed MAY have a Feed Category
    * a Feed Category element represents the concept of an Atom category (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.2) inside a feed (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/#optionalFeedElements)
    * Feed Category elements MUST appear inside a Feed element but not inside an Entry element
    * the rel-tag href encodes the atom category:term; the link text defines the atom category:label

    Entry

    * an Entry element is identified by class name hentry
    * an Entry element represents the concept of an Atom entry (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.1.2)
    * any microformat content inside a <blockquote> or <q> element within the Entry should not be considered part of the Entry.

    This allows quoting other microformated data without worry of corrupting the model

    Entry Category

    * an Entry Category element is identified by rel-tag
    * an Entry MAY have an Entry Category
    * an Entry Category element represents the concept of an Atom category (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.2) inside an entry (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/#optionalEntryElements)
    * the rel-tag href encodes the atom category:term; the link text defines the atom category:label

    Entry Title

    * an Entry Title element is identified by the class name entry-title
    * an Entry SHOULD have an Entry Title
    * an Entry Title element represents the concept of an Atom entry title (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.14)
    * if the Entry Title is missing, use
    o the first <h#> element in the Entry, or
    o the <title> of the page, if there is no enclosing Feed element, or
    o assume it is the empty string

    Entry Content

    * an Entry Content element is identified by class name entry-content
    * an Entry SHOULD have Entry Content
    * an Entry Content element represents the concept of an Atom content (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#atomContent)
    * an Entry MAY have 0 or more Entry Content elements. The "logical Entry Content" of an Entry is the concatenation, in order of appearance, of all the Entry Contents within the Entry

    Many weblogs split content into multiple sections with a "Read More" link and javascript tricks. This is also needed in cases where Entry Titles are coded inline and are considered part of the content.

    * if the Entry Content is missing, assume it is the empty string

    Entry Summary

    * an Entry Summary element is identified by class name entry-summary
    * an Entry Summary element represents the concept of an Atom summary (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.13)
    * an Entry MAY have 0 or more Entry Summary elements. The "logical Entry Summary" of an Entry is the concatenation, in order of appearance, of all the Entry Summarys within the Entry

    Entry Permalink

    * an Entry Permalink element is identified by rel-bookmark
    * an Entry SHOULD have an Entry Permalink
    * an Entry Permalink element represents the concept of an Atom link in an entry (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.7)
    * if the Entry Permalink is missing, use the URI of the page; if the Entry has an "id" attribute, add that as a fragment to the page URI to distinguish individual entries

    Entry Updated

    * an Entry Updated element is identified by class name updated
    * an Entry Updated element represents the concept of Atom updated (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.15)
    * an Entry SHOULD have an Entry Updated element
    * use the datetime-design-pattern to encode the updated datetime
    * if there is no Entry Updated element,
    o use the Entry Published element, if present
    o otherwise the page is invalid hAtom

    Entry Published

    * an Entry Published element is identified by the class name published
    * an Entry Published element represents the concept of Atom published (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.9)
    * use the datetime-design-pattern to encode the published datetime

    Entry Author

    * an Entry Author element is represented by class name author
    * an Entry Author element represents the concept of an Atom author (http://www.atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#rfc.section.4.2.1)
    * an Entry Author element MUST be encoded in an hCard
    * an Entry Author element SHOULD be encoded in an <address> element
    * an Entry SHOULD have at least one Entry Author element
    * an Entry MAY have more than one Entry Author elements
    * if the Entry Author is missing
    o find the Nearest In Parent <address> element(s) with class name author and that is/are a valid hCard
    o otherwise the entry is invalid hAtom
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      CommentAuthor[-Stash-]
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2007
     # 33
    I haven't read all of that, but a universal format will, by its nature be more complex than any of the other current board formats, mainly because it has to accommodate all of the other formats!

    Mini, I think we're talking about creating something here, although building off something like Atom would seem to make sense...
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      CommentAuthorTomTester
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2007
     # 34
    Stash, I'd say to stick to a standard, but *do* start simple, then add 'missing' features.
    • CommentAuthorRaveex
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2008 edited
     # 35
    In few days I will release my own amazing convertor Vbulletin 3.6.*/3.7.* > Vanilla 1.1.4

    It can convert Forums, Threads, Posts, Users, UserGroups, Polls, Avatars, Attachments, Signatures.

    I write it because I can't found fully functional convertor vbulletin > vanilla, only it: http://mullac.org/node/10, but it have a lot of bugs and doesn't convert correct.

    Sorry for my terrible english, I'm russian :)
    • CommentAuthorRaveex
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008 edited
     # 36
    Convertor completed! 15 modules - http://downloads.exlc.net/vb_va_conv.png

    Who is interested in convertor - my ICQ: 294779

    P.S> At once write that you is interested in converter.

    Best Regards, Raveex
  11.  # 37
    I would like this vb to vanilla converter Raveex, but I don't use ICQ, have msn, aim and yahoo... I really need this
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