hmmm. I honestly don't know how a CVS or SVN works.

I do have some big plans for the next rev, and I definitely want to handle those myself - but I really do appreciate all of the work that everyone here has been doing, and it would certainly make life easier for me if others were helping with the development as well.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not opposed to the idea - I'd just need to know more about how I could go about doing that, and I'd need to retain a lot of control at least until version 1.0 comes out.

I'd also be interested to hear if people would want to get in on the development like that? I don't even know how much interest there would be.

That sounds neato.

Link me, please :)

SVN (SubVersion): http://subversion.tigris.org/

I am not so familair with this one.

here is another: DARCS: http://darcs.net/

I would suggest using Subversion (SVN) because CVS is old and rickty and even the developers are saying use subversion now.

dudes i have used both svn and cvs and all i can say is that svn pwns basically everything.

svn it is, then :)

ugghh. I wish I had a partner in development that I could trust implicitly. No offense to all of you guys. I love all of the excellent work and support you provide to Vanilla - but I don't know most of you from Adam. No way you're getting root access on my server.

Yeah - it's not a question of understanding how to install it or use it. I'm sure I could handle it - I've just got 20 million things I'm trying to do right now.

//edit

dude i wouldn't put this at the top of the list... it's an awesome to have for sure but i think it can wait a little while

Hahaha - Rich has confessed that he has given up on learning new things. Seriously :)

SVN is definitely the way to go. Or if you're going to use CVS, then TortoiseCVS for sure.

For an existing CVS repository, the [TortoiseCVS](http://www.tortoisecvs.org/) client for Windows makes it really easy to check-out, check-in and otherwise work with sources. I also recommend taking a look at the open-source [WinMerge](http://winmerge.sourceforge.net/) package for comparing (diff) files. It's great as a stand-alone app, and plugs into TortoiseCVS for quickly finding changes to code.

Sweet - thanks for the link. I'm currently running sarge, so this should be just what I need.

I followed along with Vinay's guide up above. Created a "vanilla" repository in the following folder on the lussumo server:

/applications/subversion/vanilla


The repository is chowned to www-data:www-data

Here is my /etc/apache2/auth-files/lussumo-svn-authzfile:

# Directory specific authorization control
[groups]
owner = mark
vanilla-developers = mark

[/]
@owner = rw

[vanilla:/]
@vanilla-developers = rw
* = r

I created the /etc/apache2/auth-files/lussumo-svn-authfile for the user mark.

I created a new system account for "mark" and gave it the same password as lussumo-svn-authfile.

Here is my virtual server conf for the svn repository site (/etc/apache2/sites-available/svn_lussumo.conf):

<VirtualHost 67.18.176.227:80>
    ServerName svn.lussumo.com
    DocumentRoot /applications/subversion
    ErrorLog /applications/webalizer/subversion/error.log
    CustomLog /applications/webalizer/subversion/access.log combined
    <location /vanilla>
	DAV svn
	SVNParentPath /applications/subversion
	AuthzSVNAccessFile /etc/apache2/auth-files/lussumo-svn-authzfile
	Satisfy Any
	Require valid-user
	AuthType Basic
	AuthName "Lussumo Subversion Repository"
	AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/auth-files/lussumo-svn-authfile
    </location>
</VirtualHost>

I've then taken the latest source for vanilla and placed it in a local folder c:\applications\subversion\vanilla

I went to c:\applications\subversion and ran this command (with the following results):

C:\applications\subversion>svn import vanilla http://svn.lussumo.com/vanilla/ -m
"test"
Authentication realm: <http://svn.lussumo.com:80> Lussumo Subversion Repository
Password for 'Mark':
Authentication realm: <http://svn.lussumo.com:80> Lussumo Subversion Repository
Username: mark
Password for 'mark': **********
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/vanilla'
svn: PROPFIND of '/vanilla': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.lussumo.com)


I guess it tried to use my local system account as the default username "Mark". Which didn't work, of course. So I then used "mark" and entered the correct password. To which it threw that damn error.

On a whim I figured I'd just try to get into the repository through my web browser. I put this in the url: http://svn.lussumo.com

It showed me an empty index.

So, I tried going to http://svn.lussumo.com/vanilla

This time it prompted me for my username and password. I entered "mark" and my password. Then it threw me to a 403 Forbidden error. If I then go back to the http://svn.lussumo.com and refresh, I can see a vanilla folder sitting there. But if I click on it, it throws the Forbidden error again.

Getting pissed off at the world in general.

oh oh images. I got one.



hahaha. You'll get it eventually Mark.

edit: deleted wrong info

edit2: no insights with the apache logs?

I would usually be markedly overenthusiastic about helping you out with anything I could, but I'm honestly a through-and-through windows user and cant tell linux permissions from grapefruits. Sorry :\

Mark, have you tried adding the "mark" user to www-data group? Also, for the web folder make sure that you have done: chmod -R "w+r"
That adds read rights to the world recursively so that we can read the web based viewer.

Yes, mark is in the www-data group.
The www-data group has rwx permissions in everything from /applications/subversion down.

Oh, and the message in the apache error.log file is:

The URI does not contain the name of a repository.

I've spent the last two hours playing around with every wacky combination of urls I can in the svn_lussumo.conf file without any success. If I change it to anything other than what you see above, I get a "301 Moved Permanently" error when trying to do the import.

so is that the version your working with? the files that are on there now...

you should zip it up ;-)

cool. :) Now setting up a nice front-end like trac http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ *hint* ;)

Wohoooooo, you nearly made my day ;)

From the Url I guess it's SVN instead of CVS? :)

Yeah, but I can at least see the code.

Sweet Jesus!