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    • CommentAuthorserafino
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 51
    Thank you Wanderer. I'm running a couple of Vanilla installs and setting up a few fresh ones. I think I'll leave 1.1.2 versions alone for now until we get some clearer documentation ;-)
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 52
    What need to be added?
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      CommentAuthor[-Stash-]
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 53
    Just do what DinoBoff said - make a local copy of all the files online, and then upload 1.1.4 over the top of the current install. Alternatively, just upload those files listed as changed in both 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 and you're set.

    If something goes horribly wrong, just delete the entire vanilla directory and upload the local copy you just made. In all seriousness, you shouldn't have any problems (you may Wanderer, depending on your hacks). I've not had any problems with my test forum and I've got a lot of extensions installed on that.
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 54
    I did this last time and some things didn't work because, for example, there were new/modified definitions in the css file and this wasn't listed as a "changed" file.

    Of course I'd make a backup first, did that last time too then, when I put things back, permissions got all stuffed up, some extension corrupted the the config file and to cut a long story short, I spent a day and a half fixing things back to the way they were.

    Pardon me if I understand serafino's concerns.
  1.  # 55
    I think the diff list was created by Ant or some such tool so it should be spot on. I may be wrong though... Dinoboff?
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 56
    Missing files in the the changed file list should not happen again; we get the list from the svn and there is at least two people checking that the list on the wiki is correct.

    But really, you should upload all the core on each update - especially if you can use ssh for the transfer (sftp is as easy to use as ftp and won't corrupt your files). If you have some changes in the core files, you should use a svn repository to track your changes and merge changes in the core with your version of Vanilla.

    The only problem is with extension. You can't know if they are compatible. We do our best to not break anything between each 1.1.x release, but there some stuff we can't foreseen (e.g. the Notify bug that hasn't any bad effect before 1.1.3). You should check they are compatible with your extensions on your testing forum before upload on your server. We will also try to release beta and release candidate between each stable release, so that user and developers can test them in advance.
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 57
    @Minisweeper: since the last release only.
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007
     # 58
    Guys, I'm not blaming anyone, I understand this is part & parcel of the upgrade process.

    Nobody's fault but mine if I modified core files, I have kept a record of such modifications but they are many and wide-spread and will take some time to re-do, re-test and re-adjust I'm sure.

    Being very time-poor these days, it's not an easy thing to do.

    As for sftp... something else to learn and deal with on another day!
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2007 edited
     # 59
    I use the same client for ftp and sftp; you host just need to give you ssh access. If your host offer it, you just need to check if your ftp client allow the sftp protocol.

    You should look at a revision control program like svn, it will allow you to merge changes in your vanilla with your version and flag the part that conflict.
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      CommentAuthorrel1sh
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2007
     # 60
    Maybe I'm not following the recommended process here, but I had a test forum to which I had checked out a copy of Vanilla from: http://lussumo.com/svn/vanilla/trunk

    Upon updating, it deleted all the php files in the root of the forum and installed a build, src, and dist directory, along with files that appear to be Ant build directives. Am I crazy, or is php still an interpreted language that doesn't need to be built?

    I was using trunk as the directory to svn update against so that I could easily upgrade to the newest version and test. Is there another recommended directory in the repo which I should use for this?
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2007 edited
     # 61
    It doesn't need to be built, you can use http://lussumo.com/svn/vanilla/trunk/src/ for testing.

    We use ant mainly to build the package (minify js files and create the zip archive).
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      CommentAuthorrel1sh
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2007
     # 62
    Thanks Dino. Is this in a README file or elsewhere? This seems like a pretty harsh gotcha for anyone who is using svn to keep their Vanilla install updated.
  2.  # 63
    Aren't there version...milestones?...in the svn for people who want to use it for updates? Obviously keeping your forum in sync with the dev svn isnt advisable.
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2007
     # 64
    There are tags, but the last tag has the same structure as the trunk.

    @ rel1sh: Did the update deleted the content of your extension and conf folder?

    What should be put in the readme file?

    If someone else has to update its svn repository with the previous structure, he should switch his working copy to http://lussumo.com/svn/vanilla/trunk/src/ (or http://lussumo.com/svn/vanilla/tags/Vanilla-1.1.4/src/).
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      CommentAuthorMrNase
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2007
     # 65
    It's nice to see that Vanilla isn't dead. I can't remember when I last logged in but it must be years ago. ;-)
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      CommentAuthormattucf
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2007 edited
     # 66
    ...Ant build directives. Am I crazy, or is php still an interpreted language that doesn't need to be built?


    Build != compile. It is quite normal to use make/ant to check the syntax of interpreted source, and package it for distribution. It's also common for build scripts to include things like unit tests and document generation.
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      CommentAuthorrel1sh
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2007 edited
     # 67
    Point well taken mattucf.

    @Dinoboff: It didn't delete any directories which contained files I had modified, only the php files that were in trunk before. I had the trunk checked out so it installed what NOW exists in the trunk into my forum directory (build, src, etc) and accessing the forum URL was bunk since all the php files are now in trunk/src.

    In the readme (or changelog) it would be nice to have a note to anyone tracking the svn trunk that they should svn switch their working copy to trunk/src via a command like:
    % svn switch http://lussumo.com/svn/vanilla/trunk/src /path/to/vanilla/install
    I realize anyone using Vanilla in a 'production' environment should be using the tags anyway, but the heads-up would've been nice.
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      CommentAuthorBentot
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007 edited
     # 68
    I just updated mine from version 1.1.2 to 1.1.4

    1. I followed instructions here http://lussumo.com/docs/doku.php?id=vanilla:upgrading
    Uploaded all the files from version 1.1.4 listed here ... Upgrading from Vanilla 1.1.2 to Vanilla 1.1.3 PLUS /appg/version.php (you'll get a page error if you don't upload /appg/version.php)

    2. Lastly, I uploaded all files listed here "Upgrading from Vanilla 1.1.3 to Vanilla 1.1.4"

    3. Done
    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008
     # 69
    I need to upgrade from 1.0.3 to this one. Will it work or do I need to do it in steps?
    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008 edited
     # 70
    OK my last question was a bit lame and did not deserve a reply as the answer is clearly set out in the upgrade page. So i do apologise.

    However, I'll now try some slightly less brain-dead questions on you all. By the way, I am upgrading from 1.0.3

    1). Can I connect a test forum (residing in another folder) to the same database as my active forum (the one that I want to upgrade) without causing any upset in the operation of same? If I can, then It would allow me to test whether the extensions I am currently running are compatible before I go for the grand slam.

    2). When I do upgrade, would it be advisable to turn off all the extensions in the administrators settings area just prior to upgrade and then turn them back on one at a time once the core upgrade is running? This way it might be possible to weed out any that are not happy with the new version.

    3). Finally, is there a list anywhere of extensions that are proven to be stable on the 1.1.4 system
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      CommentAuthorDinoboff
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008
     # 71
    Yep you can upgrade directly to 1.1.4. The know issues when upgrading problems with bad php session settings and bad cookie settings on the forum.

    For the extensions look at the extensions pages, it should tell with which version they are compatible. All extensions compatible with 1.1.x should be compatible in 1.1.4
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      CommentAuthorWallPhone
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008
     # 72
    And yes, you can run two vanilla's off one database.
    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2008
     # 73
    I'm now running a test of 1.1.4 alongside 1.0.3 and I have two points of feedback:

    The new version seems to run at about half the speed of the old one. (could that be a symptom of sharing a database?

    Also I thought part of the security upgrade was to hide the users e-mail address in the login reminder form but I see it still displays the server address which i would imagine is just as useful to the spammers!
    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2008
     # 74
    I have timed it with the Safari browser on the Mac:

    Average 17 seconds for 1.1.4 to refresh
    Average of 7 seconds for 1.0.3 to refresh

    Firefox is faster - couple of seconds on 1.0.3 but not by much on the new upgrade.

    Could it be an incompatibility with an extension or is it just the extra security measures going on? I'm a bit worried that new visitors to the forum will get bored with waiting and looking at a blank screen for 17 seconds or more and clear off before the forum is displayed! Firefox error reporting suggests parsing value errors around 'display' in vanilla.print.css and vanilla.css whatever they are.

    Interestingly Internet Explorer 5.2 on the Mac cannot make head or tails of the forum layout.
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2008
     # 75
    Are you still running Mac OS 9?

    Explorer 5.2 on the Mac is not a valid browser any more, mind you my wife still uses it for her banking!
    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2008
     # 76
    No OS 10.4 but the browser works on most internet pages
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      CommentAuthorWanderer
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2008
     # 77
    Explorer 5.x is no longer supported, abandoned even by its creators, why not let it rest in peace filed away in the big trash can in the sky?
    I'm slapping my head wondering what possible motive one would have using such outdated software by choice.

    Posted: Saturday, 2 February 2008 at 6:08PM

    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2008
     # 78
    I just fired it up to see how the forum displayed with it. I assume there are a lot of people with older macs that rely on it. They won't think much of Vanilla though as it displays dreadfully so let's hope you are right james and everyone has thrown 5.2 for the mac in the bin.

    However it is the job of any self respecting site developer to test on e=very possible browser isn't it?
  3.  # 79
    Every possible current browser perhaps. Have you tested your site in IE1, 2, 3 and 4? Or netscape? Building perfect code is hard (impossible) - I'd say aim for IE6&7, Firefox, Opera, Safari.
    • CommentAuthorKeith
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2008
     # 80
    Sorry, I seem to have caused things to wander off the point a little. My point/question was why does this build seem slower?
    • CommentAuthorSaboo
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2008
     # 81
    Hello,

    I installed Vanilla yesterday and I would like to ask the experts few questions.

    First, is it possible to change the overall forum font to VERDANA size 2? As of you can see here .... all of these comments are in TREBUCHET MS font, i think. I would like to change my overall forum font to VERDANA with size 2.

    second, how do you install addons? i installed some and all of them are good, but i would like to install those TEXT WYSIWYG editors ... their installaion is different than other extensions or what? thanx
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      CommentAuthorWallPhone
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2008
     # 82
    themes/vanilla/styles/default/vanilla.css and people.css are the files you want to edit, you will see Verdana already there, just move Trebuchet MS after it in the list.

    For the editors, there should be a readme alongside the extensions that explain any additional steps that may be necessary.
    • CommentAuthorwillrix
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2008
     # 83
    I had an install of 1.1.2 and recently decided to upgrade to 1.1.4 so I dragged-and-dropped the entire 1.1.4 dir into the 1.1.2 dir, overwrote everything, and now I get the error


    A fatal, non-recoverable error has occurred
    Technical information (for support personel):

    Error Message
    The connection to the database failed:
    Affected Elements
    MySQL.OpenConnection();

    The error occurred on or near: Access denied for user: 'dangerfoxc843754@web2538.carrierzone.com' (Using password: YES)

    For additional support documentation, visit the Lussumo Documentation website at: lussumo.com/docs

    Which I understand, because apparently my host decided to rename all of the databases when they upgraded their software. I checked /conf/database.php and it has the correct database, it just won't accept it for whatever reason. I'd rather it not have deny access, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about telling Vanilla the DB is oll korrect. Any ideas? TIA.
    • CommentAuthorMurad
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2008 edited
     # 84
    I am having this error when trying to sign-in:

    Notice: Undefined index: f0fe311a21e33ec91be4a6df34d8604d in /home/content/a/b/a......./library/People/People.Class.Joomla10x.Authenticator.php on line 38

    Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in /home/content/a/b/a/....../components/com_jetigen/library/People/People.Class.Joomla10x.Authenticator.php on line 41

    I have installed the latest version.
    • CommentAuthorMurad
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     # 85
    OK. I have solved this problem.
    • CommentAuthorchris361
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     # 86
    How did you solve the problem?
    • CommentAuthorrhhanson
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2008
     # 87
    Any updates on how to resolve the issue?
    • CommentAuthorLuigi Man
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     # 88
    Hello, all. I am new here. :) This place looks VERY INTERESTING. :D Plus, you should go to the Sploder Community Forums. Also, if you not already have an account, you should Sign up for it. Also, there is a place on Sploder where you can play Sploder-type games AND you can also make games for FREE. Sign up on the main page at http://www.sploder.com OF you are interested. It's been updated for like 1 week-2 weeks.
    • CommentAuthorfysicsluvr
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     # 89
    I was gonna be reeaaally mad if that wasn't a vanilla-powered forum.

    But it was! :-P
  4.  # 90
    I was gonna delete the post if it wasnt....but it was :) Still slightly shameless but hey ho..
    • CommentAuthorLuigi Man
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2008
     # 91
    Heh, Don't get used to it. When the FULL version of sploder comes out, it will NO LONGER be powered by Vanilla.
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      CommentAuthor[-Stash-]
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2008
     # 92
    I'm trying to figure out the twisted logic behind actually mentioning that here... Mini, hit that delete button :P
  5.  # 93
    I was gonna. Then I got sidetracked wondering if this guy thought any of us on here actually cared what he thought. I assume he realises we dont but you can never quite tell...
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