Just thought it'd be nice to have a list of software people recommended that was available free similar to the vanilla ethos. CMS's, galleries, client management, server management, that sort of thing.
CMS - Drupal Gallery - Gallery2 Client Management - Don't have a need for it Server Management - Webmin I guess but I have a WHM/cPanel license on my VPS Blog - Wordpress
By work there, I mean I am a developer there/ for the project. Don't know what I was thinking.
Killes raised an issue about actually 'borowing' concepts from Vanilla.
A lot of the ideas got shot down in the mailing lists, but they were particularly interested in the 'edited' notice on comments, and the simplicity of the actual forum.
I think they are going to do a shake up of the forum after 4.7 is released (code freeze starts shortly. there are GREAT things to come so get a version of cvs and test it people).
As for integrating it. There could be some real problems with the rewrite rules and .htaccess (if you use the path module), but, if you could get around those it is then diefinately possible.
I've been impressed with Drupal ever since I found it a few months ago. The taxonomy system in itself had me sold.
I intalled Drupal HEAD and messed around with it. I was particularly impressed with free tagging and how you can now place blocks. Both are done exceptionally well.
AJAX is also nice to have, of course. What I'm most interested in seeing, however, is CCK....that baby will light the CMS scene on fire.
even if its not its opensource cool software. noted. Noones mentioned basecamp either, not open source but available free. Which is what i was getting at really.
I also can't wait until the CCK is released. chx just released the content.module that lets you define your own custom content types. It shares similar functionality with Flexinode, but it is actually a cut down version of CCK.
CCK WON'T be released in 4.7, but the content module will take its place for this release.
I LOVE the new block system. Some great designs are going to come out of that one.
I'm working on my companys new website and I'm looking for a CMS that is fast, easy to use (there will be others doing updates than just me) and it should have completely CSS based theme system.
What I need for the site is, News system with good publishing options (release time and such), a product catalog (basically image of the product, short description and just few additional files considering the product), if psobbile, a form manager software (I once saw this on one CMS, was really cool to do forms on the fly but this is not neccesary) and ofcourse filemanagement software (upload, download and linking to the sactual site).
Can you guys recommend anything? And nath, can you recomment Drupal for my needs? The site is noit going to be that huge, the company I'm working for is just a small and the traffic on the site is pretty decent.
as a pointer, kosmo, phpcoin has all the things you requested. I think. I'm just playing with configuring it now and it has a whole shitload of options, and can be a little confusing. But once you've played for a while it does seem quite smart. I need someone to skin it before i even consider using it properly though.
there's an emacs vs. vi battle going on at work lately. there was a vi quick reference sheet in the break room, and i think the emacs camp has replaced it with the emacs quick reference.
Thanks Nath, and I don't mind the plethora of functions, maybe there are some things I didn't even know I needed. Corporate websites are pretty unpredictable sometimes, you never know what is going down.
Mini, I'll definedly check the phpcoin, thanks for the heads up.
It would be smart to have a dedicated thread for CMS talk since there seems to be so many of them, and everyone has an opinion about them. The hard thing is that when I started designing the company site, I was utterly unaware that there were such things as Drupal, and Typo3, both seem to be very popular and extremely flexible.
Only thing I have against drupal is that as a noobie, I'm just so lost, I can't seem to figure out how the hell is that thing used. But I'm fast learner and I have used some pretty complex programs (like 3d modelling is easy or something) so I think I can figure it out.
Textpattern probably warrants a close look due to a massive improvement in its architecture and feature set. An install takes minutes and you're up and running pretty damn quick. Making changes is very simple and it's all CSS and compliant code out of the box.
I love how wordpress uses themes, and the fact that WP wiki is prettumuch the best resource site ever created just makes it that much better and easier.
Just lately, I have come across a nice little FreeWare editor called ConTEXT that's pretty slick and about as configurable as Ultra-Edit : http://context.cx/
aloha, is that mod x CMS any good? I tried Typo3 which was as easy to use as figuring out how to clone a human being, and this Drupal ain't that easy either, maybe it is that I have got used to configuring WP.
Drupal has a hugely different interface compaired with most other cms'. This is because the admin and general functions are not seperated. Once you use Drupal for a few days, you will see how intuitive it actaully is. I can't go without some of the features it offers.
I could set Drupal up in my sleep (but I don't sleep. sleep is for the weak), so if you need a hand or any pointers, let me know.
kosmo, mod x is definitely gearing to make waste of etomite and metacube. hahaha. typo3 is way more powerful, complex than mod x et. al. our you can think of mod x being a very lightweight solution for one person to make a website. typo3 demands an enterprise, mod x
i've been playing around with mod x for a little bit and although i still like to hand code, mod x does make things easier in some circumstances. i like it and typo3 because they are not so set in one function. like how drupal and every nuke out there are portals, movable type and wordpress are blogs. sure, you can twist and distort them into doing other things (well, maybe not the nukes) but they clearly don't shine there. mod x can make a "site" easier than mambo.
right now, i'm actually giving textpattern a try as i've been made to understand you can easily make it into something better than a blog.
Thanks aloha, another CMS I have to get around. Typo3 IS powerful, but you have to be a statistics mathematican and a rocket techinician to use it. And I'm already learning so much more that I don't have the time to learn a complex software.
Textpattern can be molded to anything, but I'm not so sure if it is so easy.
the thing with typo3 seems to be that you have to develop a whole new set of skills that only apply to typo3. if i were starting over again, maybe i could blow enough time to learn it and then be lost when it came to doing without typo3. however, i'm not going to do that now. i have a life to live!
i should note that mod x is a fork of etomite and the guy who made etomite is trying to make money on metacube. so they are pretty much all the same program except mod x is the one that is actually under any appreciable development.
i, too, am still skeptical about a blog prog being able to be flexible enough to do something other than a blog, but i'll see. at least your concern seems to be unbiased.
I couldn't find anything about the mod x else than a few forum notes about Etomite that mentioned mod x, so I'm wondering how it actually is under anykind of development? And Etomite seems to be pushing forward mighty nicely.
The thing about textpattern is that, you can "cheat" the blog to be like a news feed and make everything else out of static pages. Pretty much what every other CMS out there is, a site build around a news engine.
But now that I have dwiddled around with Drupal, I can agree that it is way too much of a community machine than a real CMS of any sort, so it's not that good for my needs and I have to find something that is more of a corporate site CMS. I'd just hope that people would call their engine more accurately, like portal engine, blogging machine and a real CMS and so on.
I hate to be the repeat offender here, but if anyone is seriously looking it something custom-tailored to fit their needs, learn Ruby on Rails.
You can get a good blog engine up in a few days once you learn how RoR works. I've been considering making a CMS in RoR (which I still might), but truth of the mater is, Rails makes it easy to just tailor make anything you want. You end up with a better product that does exactly what you need instead of hacking around a product that was never intended to do x.
Ive just started with RoR, and its nice, it is pretty easy...
I mean read through a tutorial (cookbook, todo list) and youll see just how easy. After reading the cookbook tut is when I setup RoR. Only thing is....
I dont think most servers support RoR, am I wrong?
And, getting Rails rolling can be a bitch. I hear its super easy on Linux, but if your tossin it on a Windows box, it can be a pain.
What Krak said, not all server admins think Ruby on Rails is the second coming of christ, and neither do I.
I have bought few books on Ruby and RoR, but I have yet to read them and actually make a move on them, but I'm more considered on the support for it than the "ease" all RoR zealoths vouch for.
I'm very capable of doing some things, but unless you can code a CMS for web applications in LUA or UnrealScript, I'm out of luck, I might know how to whip up a game modification or stumble my way across a PHP programs, but I'm no Mark.
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And my main concenr is, how secure the company website is, if the swiss cheese programmed it?
Well, more and more places are now supporting it. Site5, Textdrive, and Dreamhost all do.
But its a lot like the first year of PHP. You have to remember that Rails has only been around for a year. Its thus not suprising that there's not a ton of support. I should say that it is suprising that it has SO MUCH support. Its catching on fast.
As far as it being hard to use on WIndows...that's all I use it on, and I'm not having any problems.
That being said, its currently much more of an "app" solution than it is a "software" solution. Its easy to get your own custom stuff up in it, especially if you know exactly what you want, but due to those same support issues your brought up, and simply due to have fast it is to develop in it, its not really something you go around and make CMS, forum systems, etc in that lots of different people will be using. Generally you are building an app that will run on a single site, which has its positives and negatives.
To me it seems to be something more along the lines of del.icio.us, where you create an app that is always evolving and has open APIs that programmers can harness in that way.