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How Many Junk Mails Do You Get Each Day?
Mark
Oct 17th 2007
JunkMail
I've brought up this issue before, but the last time it was funny.

It is no longer funny to me just how many junk mails I get each day. It used to take me about three minutes to get rid of my junk mail before I could start reading my actual mails. Nowadays it takes me up to fifteen minutes to get rid of my junk mail.

I use Thunderbird, and it has a pretty good junk mail filter. But it takes a while for Thunderbird to download the mails and parse through them. So, I'll start the program, let it run, and go look on the forum for new applicants while it does it's thing. Eventually I return to find somewhere in the area of 150 new emails since I last checked (roughly 8 hours before). Usually about 10 to 20 of these are legitimate emails.

I spend the next few minutes scrolling through to make sure that none of my legitimate emails have been marked as junk - Every week or so I'll find one that was very important that was marked as junk, while somehow "Microsoft Off|ce Pro -New Vista/XP Edition- 79$, Save 999.95$ 0ff Retai|" manages to slip through and not get marked as junk.

Eventually I run Tools -> "Delete Mail Marked as Junk in Folder", and I'm ready to start reading mails.

This ritual has gotten so frustrating and time consuming. And the worst part of junk mail, in my opinion, is the fact that I get them constantly all day long and Thunderbird notifies me of it every time. Every time I see it pop up in the bottom-right of my screen with something like "We provide for you a real advantage to turn her on" (as it did when I wrote the last sentence), I'm left wondering: Why doesn't it check to see if it's junk before notifying me that I have new email? and then Why does it notify me at all? Can I turn that damn feature off?

I get roughly 500 junk mails every day (just got another one). That's 20 junkmails per hour, or one every three minutes.

How many do you get, and how do you handle them?

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Oct 17th 2007
I change my hosts mx records to route my mail through gmail's domain apps services (http://www.google.com/a/ -free). They do a great job filtering (much better than when I used thunderbird.

I don't know if you're using your MacBook Pro for your email or not but another option (or an additional layer) is to use Mail.app and SpamSieve ($30). You can set it up so that Mail doesn't notify you if your new mail is junk, and SpamSieve does a good job.

I'm curious too though, what are others doing?
pbear
Oct 17th 2007
I do not get all that many, but I also tend not to leave my various addresses lying around on the internet.

The ones that do knock on the door have to go through <a href="http://c-command.com/spamsieve/">SpamSieve</a>. Nuff said.
Oct 17th 2007
1-3 messages a day, if you add the "junk" some subscriptions that always end up in junk-mail, but occasionally find useful. Then 1-5. I don't know why I don't get much, as thats for 3 different e-mails too boot.
Oct 18th 2007
I had the same problem, but since I use gmail I forgot what spam means. Seriously. :)

And you can use gmail as a POP client, and even then POP it to your thunderbird if you want.
nathan
Oct 18th 2007
I would get about 400-500 spam emails a day. Not all at the one address though - I use Apple Mail with 4 different accounts. I recently retrained the junk filter and it now grabs most of them.

I do have to manually check each of the "marked" junk on occasion though, as real emails do get through.
Vaz
Oct 18th 2007
GMail is the way to go. Brilliant spam filters.
Maarten
Oct 25th 2007
I use SpamAssassin on the server to cut the worst 70% or so and not even download it. (This takes a bit of configuration the first few weeks. I'm hosted at DreamHost and control over SA is limited to setting threshold and identifying whitelisted senders; you cannot config the rules used or their weight without doing your own private install. So I have it set up fairly tolerantly to avoid false positives, figuring more filtering will happen on the client.)

On the client I use the Thunderbird 2.x built-in filter which works fairly well; it catches about 75% of the rest with virtually no false positives. (I thought there were absolutely none, but have seen 2 in the past 2-3 weeks.)

This leaves fewer than 10 spam messages in my Inbox to deal with by hand.

Before I switched to Thunderbird I was using the Cloudmark SpamNet plug-in for Outlook, which was absolutely excellent. (It's also a subscription service, $3/mo, I think.) They're working on a Thunderbird version, but it was too buggy to be tolerable when I tried it 2 months ago.
crash_D.
Nov 6th 2007
i have three primary work emails, one secondary work email, and several personal emails, one of which is primary (the others i even forgot)... as for personal email, spam is handled by google (couse its gmail).. as for work emails, i use thunderbird too, and it works fine with me... since October 6th, i got around 1,700 junk messages, which is about 50 a day.. only 1-3 of them gets through to inbox, which i have to manually send to spam folder... as for important mail marked as spam, i had a few cases after last windows reinstallation, but i then simply told thunderbird to honor these sender addresses and now it handles them fine... imo, thunderbird is a great mail client, and especially its spam fighting side.. i've been using outlook (both express and professional) and they suck compared to thunderbird... (i was thinking of a major switch to seamonkey, but found no addon that displays GPR)..
Connor
Nov 9th 2007
I get around 500 a day, but gmail filters nearly all of it out. I get maybe one that passes through per month. Touchwood none more get through.
mdemeusy
Nov 16th 2007
Gmail seems to do the trick for me, as others have mentioned.
Nov 18th 2007
You need to run anti-spam on the server, so you don't waste bandwidth or CPU

You have 2 good options:
1_ use a hosted system like gmail that will do the filtering for you
2_ use an autolearn program on your own server; there are 3 kickass ones:
spamassassin.apache.org
dspam.nuclearelephant.com
crm114.sourceforge.net
Gromski
Nov 21st 2007
I get 1500-2000 per day. I don't even bother downloading email any more.

I forward all email through a Gmail account which catches all but about 10 per day.
Dec 2nd 2007
gmail is the schizzle fo sho', to use a phrase from yester-year.
Dec 29th 2007
First, you *can* turn off the notifications in thunderbird -- Options, General tab, "When new messages arrive:" -- uncheck "Show an alert".

My spam levels grow and shrink... currently I get a hundred or so a day, I think, though I have catch-all addresses on a half-dozen domains.

I'm currently using the Knujon system - I report spam to them, and they work with ISPs, law enforcement, etc. to get the hosts, nameservers, etc. shut down of the spamvertised domains. It's hard to measure exactly what difference it makes to my spam, but I know I'm a lot better off than most people!

I wrote a Thunderbird plugin for them, plus a lot of details on how to use it on my webpage. There are some tips that will help everyone, such as *never* set your Junk folder to a remote folder on an IMAP server... it's much better to make it a local folder, particularly if you're going to forward the spam to report it somewhere.
Mar 7th 2008
I personally would not use gmail because I don't want Google to have access to all my information. gmail is a privacy concern. I route all my mail through spam arrest. I was getting maybe 300 a day, but now, zero, thanx to spam arrest.
faoi
Mar 9th 2008
Spam Sieve. Hands down. (for on-computer mail app(s))

gmail for registrations, listmail.
Mar 20th 2008
I get about a thousand a day through my email accounts. I have tried adding to the rules within outlook and it catches more than half the spam, but i still get so much. I have found that using yahoo for email cuts back on a huge amount of my spam. Every once in a while yahoo puts something in the bulk folder that shouldn't be there - but he good ones are easy to spot.
5 days ago
i get hundreds every day and no filter really works :( the spamers are going to be much more clever with the time i think. i hope there will be soon a solution for that sh*t. every day i have to spend much time to delete that ....
3 days ago
I get about 200 spams every day now. Which is due to the fact that I have to be protected by an IMF on Exchange filter. Before, using a special greylisting/spamassassin combo there was very few spam reaching my inbox. Thinking about switching back ;-)

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